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MARCH 19 2010 WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE DEEMED DAY OF UNREDEEMED HEALTH CARE OR THE REDEEMED DAY OF PUBLIC WE THE PEOPLE POWER.. VOTE NO OR YOUR FIRED!

Not over yet is it 3 17 10  story sent by Stephanie Davis on Greta Wire

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Lots of good stuff emailed by MFI today 8 24 2009
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Health care debate continues nationally, locally

1. Vote in the 9th Congressional District? Rep. Lynch, elected as pro-life, to hold town hall meeting

Congressman Stephen F. Lynch - Town Hall Forum - Thursday, August 27th - 6-8 pm - Alumni Recreation Center, Curry College, 1071 Blue Hill Avenue, Milton, MA

Rep. Lynch was elected as a pro-lifer.  It is very important that constituents attend the forum to urge him to oppose any bill that does not specifically exclude public funding of abortion.

Please try to attend the forum.  Everyone, even those who plan to attend the forum, should call his office at 617-428-2000.

2. Vote in the 2nd Congressional District? Rep. Neal needs to hear from you

Rep. Richard Neal, Democrats congressman from the 2nd Massachusetts District, is considered to be in an important vote when the Democrats' health care takeover bill comes up in the House this fall. When he was originally elected to the House, he was a declared opponent of abortion. However, as so often is the case, he became pro-abortion once getting to Washington , D.C. The hope is that he still has a heart for the unborn, and will be a critical vote in removing any abortion funding from the bill.

Constituents need to call his office opposing any bill that does not specifically exclude public funding of abortions.

Congressman Richard Neal:

Washington: 202-225-5601

Milford: 508.634.8198

Springfield 413.785.0325

3. Vote in the 6th Congressional District? Rep. Tierney to hold telephone town hall meetings

On Monday, August 31, Rep. John Tierney will be hosting a telephone town hall meeting to discuss the health care bills with constituents in particular towns within his district. (Rep. Tierney is holding one tomorrow evening for the other towns, but registration has been closed.) If you are interested in participating in the call and live in the included towns, use THIS LINK to register by 10 AM this Friday, August 28.

Rep. Tierney Telephone Town Hall

Monday, AUGUST 31, 6 PM - registration closes for this call at 10 AM on 8/28/09

Beverly, Boxford, Danvers, Essex, Georgetown, Gloucester, Groveland, Ipswich, Lynnfield, Manchester-by-the-Sea, Merrimac, Nahant, North Reading, Reading, Salem, Salisbury, Saugus, Swampscott, Topsfield, Wenham

Registration: https://forms.house.gov/tierney/webform/phone_registration.html

4. The following is detailed information from FACTCHECK.org confirming abortion in health care bill

Though many liberal congressmen are responding to constituent concerns about abortion funding being included in health care bills in Congress by saying that abortion is not included, the truth is that abortion can be funded under the proposed plans. The following information from the website FACTCHECK.org clearly supports pro-life claims.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/abortion-which-side-is-fabricating/

FactCheck.org

Abortion: Which Side Is Fabricating?

August 21, 2009

Summary

Will health care legislation mean "government funding of abortion"?

President Obama said Wednesday that's "not true" and among several "fabrications" being spread by "people who are bearing false witness." But abortion foes say it's the president who's making a false claim. "President Obama today brazenly misrepresented the abortion-related component" of health care legislation, said Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee. So which side is right?

The truth is that bills now before Congress don't require federal money to be used for supporting abortion coverage. So the president is right to that limited extent. But it's equally true that House and Senate legislation would allow a new "public" insurance plan to cover abortions, despite language added to the House bill that technically forbids using public funds to pay for them. Obama has said in the past that "reproductive services" would be covered by his public plan, so it's likely that any new federal insurance plan would cover abortion unless Congress expressly prohibits that. Low- and moderate-income persons who would choose the "public plan" would qualify for federal subsidies to purchase it. Private plans that cover abortion also could be purchased with the help of federal subsidies. Therefore, we judge that the president goes too far when he calls the statements that government would be funding abortions "fabrications."

Analysis

Obama's "Fabrications" Remark

Obama's remarks Wednesday, August 19, came during a telephone conference call to thousands of listeners, organized by religious organizations supporting his health care proposals. He said that "there has been a lot of misinformation in this debate, and there are some folks out there who are frankly bearing false witness." And then he lumped in abortion coverage at the end of a list of claims that he branded as untrue:

Obama, Aug. 19: We are closer to achieving that reform than we have ever been. And that's why we're seeing some of the divisive and deceptive attacks. You've heard some of them. Ludicrous ideas. Let me just give you one example, this notion that we are somehow setting up "death panels" that would decide on whether elderly people get to live or die. That is just an extraordinary lie. This is based on a provision in the House legislation that would allow Medicare to reimburse you if you wanted counseling on how to set up a living will or other end of life decisions. Entirely voluntary, it gives you an option that people who can afford fancy lawyers already exercise. That's the kind of distortion that we've been hearing too much of out here.

We've heard that this is all designed to provide health insurance to illegal aliens. That's not true. There's a specific provision in the bill that does not provide health insurance for those individuals. You've heard that there's a government takeover of health care. That's not true. You've heard that this is all going to mean government funding of abortion. Not true. This is all, these are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation, and that is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper. And in the wealthiest nation on earth right now, we are neglecting to live up to that call.

The White House did not post any transcript of the president's words, but sponsors of the conference call, a coalition of faith-based groups supporting an overhaul of the health insurance system, posted the full audio of the president's call on its Web site. His words come near the very end of the recording, and we transcribed them from the recording.

Abortion foes quickly denounced Obama's statement as untrue. The NRLC's Johnson said "the bill backed by the White House (H.R. 3200) explicitly authorizes the government plan to cover all elective abortions." And our analysis shows that Johnson's statement is correct. Though we of course take no position on whether the legislation should allow or not allow coverage for abortions, the House bill does just that.

The House leadership's bill (H.R. 3200) actually made no mention of abortion when it was introduced. Johnson refers to an amendment to the bill adopted by the House Energy and Commerce Committee July 30. Abortion rights proponents characterize it as a compromise, but it hasn't satisfied the anti-abortion side. Offered by Democratic Rep. Lois Capps of California, the amendment was approved narrowly by the committee, 30 - 28, with most but not all Democrats voting in favor and no Republicans backing it. The Capps amendment states that some abortions "shall" be covered by the "public option" plan, specifically those types of abortions that Congress allows to be covered under Medicaid, under the so-called "Hyde Amendment," which has been attached regularly to appropriations bills for many years. These are abortions performed in cases or rape or incest, or to save the life of the mother.

As for other types of abortions, the Capps amendment leaves it to the secretary of Health and Human Services to decide whether or not they will be covered. It says, "Nothing in this Act shall be construed as preventing the public health insurance option from providing" abortion services that would not be legal for Medicaid coverage. Says the NRLC's Johnson: "The Capps Amendment MANDATES that the public plan cover any Medicaid-fundable abortions, and AUTHORIZES the secretary to cover all other abortions. … [F]rom day one, she [Secretary Kathleen Sebelius] is authorized to pay for them all. And, she will."

We can't say what anyone will do in the future. But Obama himself said on July 17, 2007, that "[i]n my mind, reproductive care is essential care" and would be covered by his public insurance plan. He was addressing Planned Parenthood:

Obama, July 17, 2007: We're going to set up a public plan that all persons and all women can access if they don't have health insurance. It will be a plan that will provide all essential services, including reproductive services, as well as mental health services and disease management services, because part of our interest is to make sure that we're putting more money into preventive care.

Obama did not use the word "abortion," but a spokesman for the campaign said later that abortion would be included, according to the Chicago Tribune. The NRLC has posted an unedited video of Obama's response on YouTube (along with some comments which are the group's opinions and not necessarily those of anyone at FactCheck.org).

Public Funds

The Capps amendment does contain a statement—as we noted in an earlier articlethat prohibits the use of public money to pay for abortions, except in cases of rape, incest and to save the life of the mother. That would still allow the public plan to cover all abortions, so long as the plans took in enough private money in the form of premiums paid by individuals or their employers. The Capps language also would allow private plans purchased with federal subsidies ("affordability credits" for low-income families and workers) to cover abortion.

Broader language was contained in an amendment offered by Democratic Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan the day after the Capps amendment was approved. The Stupak amendment would have overruled Capps and prohibited government funding of "any part of the costs of any health plan that includes coverage of abortion," except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother. The Stupak amendment was rejected by the committee 27 - 31.

Supporters of abortion rights argue that this would cause some women who now have abortion coverage to lose it, by forcing private insurance companies to drop abortion coverage from plans so that they can be purchased with the help of federal subsidies. For example, NARAL Pro-Choice America states:

NARAL: Anti-choice members of Congress aren't satisfied with the Capps compromise. They want to impose a new nationwide abortion ban in the private health-insurance market by prohibiting such coverage in the new health-care systemthus taking away coverage from women who already have it.

We can't predict how many insurance plans might be affected by the Stupak language. And we take no stand on whether all abortions should or should not be covered.

As for the House bill as it stands now, it's a matter of fact that it would allow both a "public plan" and newly subsidized private plans to cover all abortions.

Sources

U.S. House. "H.R. 3200." (as introduced 14 Jul 2009.)

National Right to Life. "Obama Says "Government Funding of Abortion" is Fabrication", But the White House-Backed House Bill Explicitly Authorizes It." press release. 19 Aug 2009.

Capps amendment to H.R. 3200. House Energy and Commerce Committee. 30 Jul 2009.

Stupak amendment to H.R. 3200. House Energy and Commerce Committee. 31 Jul 2009.

NARAL Pro-Choice America. "The Truth About Abortion and Health Reform." Blog for Choice. 14 Aug 2009.

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Brooks Jackson on Friday, August 21, 2009 at 5:24

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