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At point where there was a Fire in Building an actual small fire somewhere.. we exited.  The Judge gave 15 minutes after returning to restart.  The break was  45minutes max.  1030 to 1PM = 2.5 hours minus 45minutes 1hour 45minute case length.

  • 09 0119
  • Mary Buonato, Esq. Plaintiff
  • Gary Smith Esq Plaintiff
  • Scott Simpson Defense DOJ
  • 920am  22 people in room
  • doors locked
  • no phones only attorneys allowed phones
  • since 911 just recently allowed attys to have them back
  • 930am  room doors opened
  • overflow room established sound feed only but tv capable
  • told later tv was actually on
  • 950am  plaintiffs 16 walk in sit in jury pool area
  • room filling up
  • 48+people squeezing in room holds 80 -90
  • 955am  doors locked room full
  • 1030  Judge enters court
  • Plaintiffs first established
  • Defendants last
  • Atty Buonato speaks first
  • will speak on three different matters Judge
  • Judicial US code……. Spouse defense
  • take class divides into two classes of people
  • one class marriage protections
  • other protections disregarded denied protection
  • named persons representing
  • Congress has power to create this intrusion
  • 10th amendment challenge
  • correct Supreme Court statute has Police powers no broad powers
  • 1995 US 2000 case Nonis..Vs
  • disagreed 1 area block off marriage not essential to case
  • ask take people Same Sex benefits after working tax dollars
  • ex Mary P  Police Department 6K increase treated differently than married persons
  • Judge
  • so its dollars versus constitutional issues??
  • Federal dollars??
  • Bonato
  • Case Constitutional protection
  • even had idly?    no definition of person/ only with a man and a woman heterosexual  insurance issue
  • 2  Hole US/sp not a family plan
  • agree 1996 Congress Same Sex
  • 1  States resistance not an issue
  • Fed Gov not have to as married couples outlaw same sex marriage
  • Judic states homosexual conduct immoral degraded
  • Congress status quo

  • Department of Justice changes purpose of Federal Law intent rule gay families outside of law
  • married persons approval of groups of citizens
  • USDA US   1996 decreases provision disqualifies gay households = protection
  • means no harm to particular group
  • JUDGE
  • status quo  congress concern to preserve incrimentilization?
  • BONATO
  • No, prior Federal Defers to States
  • Power determines course
  • JUDGE
  • status quo states control
  • BONATO
  • 230 years Federal responsibility changes rules only allowed to marry
  • Status quo continues hetero status or gender status
  • no definition of marriage in place
  • DOMA provides nation wide protection to marriage
  • State control eligibility
  • ceremonial  exand  state__________
  • first time DOMA departed from this created an exclusion
  • only changes who is to marry
  • JUDGE
  • Financial Impact marry /insurances
  • BONATO
  • 1  Congress acknowledges 10 areas of benefits rejected Congress fiduciary office
  • 1996 saved dollars  question if this is what was said..
  • deny benefits why this group until 2014 inserted
  • 6 Rationales
  • JUDGE
  • ? limited to these?
  • BONATO
  • No, 1996 Justifications
  • morality pristine traditional marriage or not at all
  • Commonwealth of Massachusetts suppresses definition of traditional marriage
  • not a valid
  • benefits exclusion not a legislative end
  • DOMA denies Federal Protection plus classes already married
  • Federal Protection stay same DOMA denies same sex protections
  • Traditional marriage APP 1996 if Congress believed traditional obvious
  • denies protections to same sex familes does nothing
  • penalizes children and couples
  • State Sovereignty Section 3 overrides
  • Status quo arguments
  • JUDGE
  • what interest to preserve status quo?
  • BONATO

Not an interest mean to other purpose heartland planning process

  • DOMA  singles out certain people
  • Congress to proceed on issue one step at a time
  • who is married and who is not
  • 1998 Supreme Court strike tradition
  • 1948 49 Congress Law marriage same race couples argument
  • 30 States had laws prohibitions
  • Fed Agency not deal with same sex couples effects who is married and who is not
  • Status Quo no rational basis for DOMA
  • JUDGE
  • Incrimentilization?
  • BONATO
  • toward what?
  • JUDGE
  • no same sex marriage legislative purpose absolute ban on same sex marriage
  • Congress has no interest in uniform law
  • BONATO
  • ? Federal Jurisdiction 200 years by states
  • ? Congress interest rational basis
  • no Federal interest definition of marriage
  • definition not disputed not in states power concede……..
  • we think case…………….
  • Federal Law creates differences measure sufficiently related
  • Federal Government
  • section 5 voting rights act
  • tethered to fifth amendment
  • clearly DOMA tethered creates problems
  • what it means?
  • Federal definition of marriage
  • before DOMA
  • JUDGE
  • no rational basis?
  • BONATO
  • subject to heightened scrutiny
  • not necessary
  • JUDGE
  • rational I agree  not on heightened scrutiny
  • BONATO
  • States historical definition undermines states other challenges strict scrutiny
  • child support not apply
  • different from DOMA
  • US Circuit…revisit ruling Child support 1st Circuit upheld
  • both interstate enforcement
  • Defense argued
  • 1st Circuit Court supports sanctions no purpose or effect
  • protect integrity rational basis   military
  • court homosexual not protected
  • first circuit found mandated
  • 1105AM
  • BONATO
  • continues did not consider sexual orientation
  • Defense has no affadavits provided
  • court applied
  • no classification effect
  • 2 characteristic evidence  state trooper successfully key criteria
  • minority no federal law to discriminate job ed??? not sure here..ja
  • Federal Hate crimes misappropriate bill
  • numerous state laws political power alienation
  • destroy sexual orientation set in ways very early?
  • Final
  • DOMA intrudes on rights
  • fundamental right burdened by DOMA
  • DEFENSE
  • Acknowledge strict scrutiny applies SJC family relationship defines identity
  • Congress should be careful/ instead not to negate marital status and all the purposes
  • State S?  Fed C? O advertising this takes away clarity and security
  • Defense acknowledges burden same sex couples DOMA
  • 2  Burden Denied equal protection check forms require single or head of household
  • BONATO
  • conclusion Justice Kennedy constitution neither tolerates classes of citizens
  • society based on rule of law state neutrality DOMA antitheses of Constitution
  • applies benefits denied
  • Defense system allegations Commonwealth case….?
  • DEFENSE
  • 2  Fed Government can control US expanded meaning of marriage spouse defense agrees fact Federal Funds
  • JUDGE
  • When did it become a Federal Matter??
  • need precedent pre DOMA
  • Fed has to
  • Tradition involved statute whitch 1996 general interest
  • DOMA for Fed Purposes
  • Policy defense of marriage act
  • Rational basis
  • Colough vs Doe
  • rational speculation argument repl on DOMA
  • Plaintiffs 28-32 Defense do not rely on court nt before the court
  • 1996 Congress proceed states had authority to decide understand spouse/marriage
  • change how those words understood
  • JUDGE
  • why did it become a Federal Interest?
  • why define the usage?? not sure here what was said ja
  • example 20 states average 20 don’t show consistency
  • DEFENSE
  • states have not same sex marriage
  • JUDGE
  • burden on Federal Gov to track??
  • states had popular vote to stop same sex marriage unsettled issue
  • Status quo circumstance state provides answer
  • DEFENSE
  • what is the status quo?
  • status quo trying back before 1996 couple hetero only want status quo to change? JUDGE WANTS ARGUMENT
  • status quo court said
  • status quo state said
  • status quo federal said
  • circumstance not law
  • DEFENSE
  • no statute Federal level
  • JUDGE
  • Jurisprudence never any cases on the issue incredible! defined on states role how come until DOMA state matter??
  • DEFENSE
  • state had control authority
  • JUDGE
  • first question.. who said so?
  • DEFENSE
  • decisions/state/interstitial/Federal conflict laws disputes congress changes approach 1996 who can marry increase changes same sex marriage need to freeze
  • understanding of marriage DOMA freezes understanding to heterosexual marriage
  • absence created Federal marital
  •  FIRE FIRE FIRE DRILL OUT OF BUILDING

  • 1215PM return from evactuation
  • DEFENSE DOJ
  • Rational basis, with out Congressional action  Federal Agencies mandated to keep track..decision 15 temporarily preserves Status Quo
  • 15 of         paragraph @ end of argument
  • JUDGE
  • incrimentalization
  • DEFENSE
  • Incrimentalization Congress justified social issues one step at a time
  • JUDGE
  • Status Quo
  • Status or deters requirement?
  • DEFENSE
  • Federal Gov Congress kept
  • JUDGE
  • showed sides partiality
  • DEFENSE
  • until Congress decides Federal benefits to same sex couples
  • things could change Economy
  • Incrimentalization comes in Congress can change ties to argument
  • Federal one step @ a time
  • Supreme Court says States can be Laboratories for DOMA State experiment
  • should not dictate when Federal status applies
  • 1 Argument DOMA Family Law
  • should not subject to scrutiny no precedent for high scrutiny
  • what courts ask?  congress
  • what done what powers tax conditions with in congress
  • DOMA does not
  • 2 nd Argument
  • damages Family integrity
  • social recognition dignity security right family unit
  • right to Family integrity Case law together custodial care contra family privacy
  • social recognition no precedent to rights
  • JUDGE
  • Your position?
  • DEFENSE
  • Fund integrity of family unit
  • including marriage
  • JUDGE
  • basis system of marriage approved by states?
  • DEFENSE
  • Right saying does not encompass dignity security familial  I say deepend effect
  • Social Security married Federal Law
  • 3  heightened scrutiny sexual orientation how to meet??
  • __________vs gates
  • show same sex class rejected cook classification rejected
  • P61 top gov classified sub to increased scrutiny
  • focused a Plaintiffs focus on court said sex … not a class
  • Fumor vs Lawrence not a suspect class
  • summary judgement
  • class same sex is class
  • appeals unnecessary to get into court NY classification
  • Sentence no case sited did court ………………..countries
  • 5 decisions proposition Boohang vs Murphy
  • no suspect escapes classification
  • equal protection test not applicable
  • Rodriguez Vs hh Welfare
  • 2 Classification
  • neither distinct inherent sub classifications
  • 3 decisions the court came to effect these cases
  • does not qualify no precedent to say classification suspect
  • This court Cook homosexual not suspect classification for review
  • Constitutional argument
  • Statutory argument
  • Den Harris Standing Plaintiff position? OPM Dismissed as defendant
  • Federal Standing health benefits
  • doesn’t have …
  • 2 issues standing this and Federal Court
  • Statutory instruction provision Federal employee benefits
  • Broad HPFB override Plaintiff statues cover all family members
  • Status spouse unmarried step child aside constitutional issues
  • relying on broad goals HPFB
  • Obviously say anything do not actually leg history does not ambiguous statutory text  denied as survivor ……….federal ………
  • one rout to seek protection board review denied
  • petition concluded not elegible DOMA
  • Fed Circuit no determination Mr Herrick elegible for annuity
  • survivor circuit declare installed to emboldment does not violate 2 arguments
  • 1 OPM abandoned  not decision quotes leaves familymember
  • 2 OPM did not appeal cannot r???
  • OPM does not have to appeal
  • both arguments issued precuted at Federal Circuit Presidential agrees with DOMA as policy believe rational urge court
  • BONATO
  • FEHP  can be construed statute suspect different constutional F I own not ceiling no reason state can cover others Nancy Gill cannot provide health insurance
  • Harris Standing same sex claim not be dismissed pending issue only remaining
  • Constitutionality this court has jurisdiction Issue constitutionality of DOMA
  • has stayed its hands
  • MSPP
  • Justice Bodler no requirement DOMA not named could not elect survivor benefit
  • DOMA not married could not elect survivor benefit evidence of intentional annuity plus health insurance demand HB Statute
  • no Wilkin spouse waited to provide benefits reconsidered decision
  • no record doc decision therefore not enrolled..not eligible
  • constitutionality requirement
  • JUDGE
  • 2 merites
  • 1 authority marital status 28PBSepCt DomRel
  • 2 statutes same sex 416H sect fam statute court say validly married
  • BONATO
  • fluidity
  • DOMA more burdensome
  • ask 2 state law and gender
  • DEFENSE
  • question authorithy Federal Circuit
  • 2pt social security act DOMA implied legal rule not to dismiss
  • rational basis? no objection to …….
  • JUDGE
  • well presented both sides
 

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